From paul at cundell.com Fri Nov 20 09:23:24 2009 From: paul at cundell.com (Paul Cundell) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:23:24 -0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <03b701ca68e4$c2710760$47531620$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <038501ca689a$6b82ffc0$4288ff40$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <03b701ca68e4$c2710760$47531620$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> Matt: > > Mandy isn?t as bad as he is made out. His public image is horrible > but > > behind the scenes he is effective and not too unpleasant. He just > made > > a few "calculated errors of judgement" > Mark: > Sorry, in my opinion he is an old school slime bag. Watching him on > the politics show or some such, evading direct questions (which all > politicians do) with that greasy smirk across his face, and his > patronising attitude makes me want to slap the TV. He is so superior > yet, as far as I can see, he has absolutely nothing to be superior > about. > A description that could be levelled at the whole Shadow cabinet, imho of course. I love the way Mark feels his opinion carries more weight than someone who has met the guy. Matt stated that Mandy's public image was horrible, whilst Mark's comments are based solely on his public image!?!?!? Paul From tim at 3leafieldvillas.co.uk Fri Nov 20 09:33:29 2009 From: tim at 3leafieldvillas.co.uk (Tim Leslie) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:29 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU - The End? In-Reply-To: <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <038501ca689a$6b82ffc0$4288ff40$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <03b701ca68e4$c2710760$47531620$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> Message-ID: <49346.217.41.47.178.1258709609.squirrel@server27.ukservers.net> They are all tossers. End of. Now, have we got a game this weekend or what? Typically, instead of a game against a team 4th from bottom and in poor form, we now play a team on a high after a 3-1 win at Southampton last week and managed by an ex Leeds person. Bugger. 1-1. > Matt: >> > Mandy isn???t as bad as he is made out. His public image is horrible >> but >> > behind the scenes he is effective and not too unpleasant. He just >> made >> > a few "calculated errors of judgement" >> > Mark: >> Sorry, in my opinion he is an old school slime bag. Watching him on >> the politics show or some such, evading direct questions (which all >> politicians do) with that greasy smirk across his face, and his >> patronising attitude makes me want to slap the TV. He is so superior >> yet, as far as I can see, he has absolutely nothing to be superior >> about. >> > > A description that could be levelled at the whole Shadow cabinet, imho of > course. > > I love the way Mark feels his opinion carries more weight than someone who > has met the guy. > Matt stated that Mandy's public image was horrible, whilst Mark's comments > are based solely on his public image!?!?!? > > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy From paul at cundell.com Fri Nov 20 09:53:31 2009 From: paul at cundell.com (Paul Cundell) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:53:31 -0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony In-Reply-To: <41522.212.147.136.147.1258628089.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> References: <539401.57323.qm@web28207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1014842813.270822.1258368013307.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw17.schlund.de> <20297.212.147.136.147.1258390498.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> <005801ca6826$53863230$fa929690$@com> <035a01ca687d$d747fb60$85d7f220$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> <888ABF00-63E7-432F-A66B-F89EFCB1C78E@cundell.com> <41522.212.147.136.147.1258628089.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> Message-ID: <008201ca69c7$51b27a20$f5176e60$@com> Mark H wrote: > > I think you'll find that the 'majority' of people are not as thick as > > you would like to think. The majority of the people of Harrogate, for > > instance, voted Lib Dem - does that mean they voted for Charles > > Kennedy, Phil Willis or the Liberal Democrats? > Not in my experience > when > it comes to voting at a general election. And your experience is what? That if the electorate don't vote the way you want then it must be because they don't know what they are doing? Conceited tw#t! > A significant percentage of people vote colour, not policies anyway. You said they voted for the leader two days ago, make your mind up man! > You are seriously trying to tell me that if you approached the average, > non colour-blind voter on polling day for the general election, why > they > voted for X, they would give you a reason related to the local MP > (assuming they arent famous/cabinet ministers)? Most would either cite > a > general party policy (so voting for the party), or because they see > that > party leader as PM. So apart from those that vote colour, vote local dude, vote famous/cabinet minister, vote policies or vote general party policy the rest vote for the party leader? That's quite a long way from 'all the proles vote for the party leader' isn't it? > Perhaps in your neck of the woods it is different, I'm not sure if you > could class Harrogate as preletariat rich anyway :-) I used Harrogate as an example but could have used Keighley equally as well. Shame you can never back your arguments up with valid examples. > I personally think people should be forced to vote on policies (ie > manifesto summary), then at least dyed in the wool tory/labour/libdem > supporters would have to actually learn what their chosen party stands > for. Bugger all turn out to vote now, making them read everybody's manifesto before they can vote won't make them any more likely to turn out. Besides which, how many manifesto's did you read before the last election? > Anyway, I digress, noone voted for GB to be PM. When he got in it was > pretty apparent that he was crap and people wanted him out, and > therefore > he should have called for a GE at the earliest opportunity. No-one voted for Major to be PM either but he was! Did you cry foul then or was that ok cos he was 'unelected' and blue instead of 'unelected' and red? > If you remember, he was meant to actually do that shortly after he > became > PM, but within that short time he had already started to cock up and > when > push came to shove, decided not to risk it. Since then the whole > situation has gone from bad to worse. Fact is, if there had been ANY chance of > him > winning a GE as leader, at any time since he took power, he would have > gone for a GE. That, I believe, tells you everything you need to know > about his public approval rating. That statement tells everything about how you like to rewrite history to fit your argument. If you remember it was Cameron who got all excited that Brown was going to call an election and came in his pants, only for Brown to laugh behind his hand when he decided not to. I actually thought Brown did Cameron a favour as at the time Cameron didn't have any policies. He doesn't have many now, he seems to know what he won't do but very rarely knows what he will. Maggie T never cared about public approval ratings, so one can only assume it fits your mindset to be important now. Paul From nigel at mindbrix.co.uk Fri Nov 20 11:00:16 2009 From: nigel at mindbrix.co.uk (Nigel Barber) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:16 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> Message-ID: <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> I've heard he's a nice guy too. He may be a lightning rod for a lot of latent homophobia. Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the papers is astonishingly naive. Double for TV. Nigel. 2009/11/20 Paul Cundell > Matt: > > > Mandy isn?t as bad as he is made out. His public image is horrible > > but > > > behind the scenes he is effective and not too unpleasant. He just > > made > > > a few "calculated errors of judgement" > > > Mark: > > Sorry, in my opinion he is an old school slime bag. Watching him on > > the politics show or some such, evading direct questions (which all > > politicians do) with that greasy smirk across his face, and his > > patronising attitude makes me want to slap the TV. He is so superior > > yet, as far as I can see, he has absolutely nothing to be superior > > about. > > > > A description that could be levelled at the whole Shadow cabinet, imho of > course. > > I love the way Mark feels his opinion carries more weight than someone who > has met the guy. > Matt stated that Mandy's public image was horrible, whilst Mark's comments > are based solely on his public image!?!?!? > > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy > -- Mindbrix: Web design, building, e-commerce, promotion, consultancy... Happiness at Work Studios 1 Green Bank Wapping E1W 2PA nigel at mindbrix.co.uk www.mindbrix.co.uk T:+44 20 7480 5638 M:+44 7905 311 352 Skype: ntbarber From briggsy_lad at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 11:34:34 2009 From: briggsy_lad at hotmail.com (Chris Briggs) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:34:34 -0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net><008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the papers is astonishingly naive. Double for TV. Nice philosophy but it depends upon the context of what you are watching / reading and whether it is fact or opinion. From ws.callaghan at live.co.uk Fri Nov 20 11:51:20 2009 From: ws.callaghan at live.co.uk (Wayne) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:51:20 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net><008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Personally I only believe what I read on the Internet Regards Wayne Sent from my iPhone On 20 Nov 2009, at 11:34, "Chris Briggs" wrote: > Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in > the papers is astonishingly naive. Double for TV. > > Nice philosophy but it depends upon the context of what you are > watching / reading and whether it is fact or opinion. > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy > From mib at myRay.com Fri Nov 20 12:12:14 2009 From: mib at myRay.com (Dr Michael Benjamin) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:12:14 +0200 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57dd23900911200412t11210483xafbf8eef866f8cf3@mail.gmail.com> And only if from this list. So when's Thatchers funeral? Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist ------------------------------- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com ------------------------------ Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com -------------------------------- Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ -------------------------------- Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com 2009/11/20 Wayne > Personally I only believe what I read on the Internet > > Regards > Wayne > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Nov 2009, at 11:34, "Chris Briggs" wrote: > > Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the >> papers is astonishingly naive. Double for TV. >> >> Nice philosophy but it depends upon the context of what you are watching / >> reading and whether it is fact or opinion. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators >> accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. >> Leedslist mailing list >> Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk >> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> Volame vsechny Cechy >> >> > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy > > From mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Nov 20 11:23:28 2009 From: mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk (mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:23:28 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony In-Reply-To: <008201ca69c7$51b27a20$f5176e60$@com> References: <539401.57323.qm@web28207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1014842813.270822.1258368013307.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxltgw17.schlund.de> <20297.212.147.136.147.1258390498.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> <005801ca6826$53863230$fa929690$@com> <035a01ca687d$d747fb60$85d7f220$@humphries@blueyonder.co.uk> <888ABF00-63E7-432F-A66B-F89EFCB1C78E@cundell.com> <41522.212.147.136.147.1258628089.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> <008201ca69c7$51b27a20$f5176e60$@com> Message-ID: <52562.212.147.136.147.1258716208.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> > And your experience is what? Chatting with people and finding out why they vote the way they do. > That if the electorate don't vote the way you want then it must be because > they don't know what they are doing? Conceited tw#t! Did I make any distinction between the partys? No. As you are resorting to name calling, clearly upset your boys are in for a beating next year, I will leave it at that. tara :-)www.pilot-supplies.info www.collector-watches.info www.snowy-stuff.info www.sparkly-stuff.info From nigel at mindbrix.co.uk Fri Nov 20 12:30:20 2009 From: nigel at mindbrix.co.uk (Nigel Barber) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:30:20 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5cb2c0530911200430h21bafb4ap4202df69524f06cd@mail.gmail.com> The art of reading between the lines. Nigel. 2009/11/20 Chris Briggs > Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the > papers is astonishingly naive. Double for TV. > > Nice philosophy but it depends upon the context of what you are watching / > reading and whether it is fact or opinion. > > > > -- Mindbrix: Web design, building, e-commerce, promotion, consultancy... Happiness at Work Studios 1 Green Bank Wapping E1W 2PA nigel at mindbrix.co.uk www.mindbrix.co.uk T:+44 20 7480 5638 M:+44 7905 311 352 Skype: ntbarber From mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Nov 20 11:32:42 2009 From: mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk (mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:32:42 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> > I've heard he's a nice guy too. He may be a lightning rod for a lot of > latent homophobia. > > Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the papers > is > astonishingly naive. Double for TV. hahaha. So unless we actually meet people in the flesh several times (astonishingly naive to make judgement on just the one meeting - could be a bad hair day), then we are not allowed to "make judgements"? So not allowed to extrapolate on someone's personality or character based on what they say, how they say it, what they stand for, the fact they have been sacked twice, and so on? Also forming an opinion of someone is, in my opinion, not necessarily making a judgement on that person. But hey, I must be in a minority, unlike the party planners for Thatchers funeral who have all met her at least once of course.. Anyway, I have not got the time or the inclination to meet everyone I want to think of as a creepy spin doctoring slime ball, so I am going to remain astonishingly naive and still not piss on him if he were burning in front of me. From sean at canofworms.me.uk Fri Nov 20 12:56:38 2009 From: sean at canofworms.me.uk (Sean Emmott) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:56:38 -0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw== .squirrel@212.147.136.147> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> Message-ID: > >> I've heard he's a nice guy too. I've only ever met one MP face to face, and he wasn't a front bencher. However, I understand that, face to face, most of them are absolutely charming. It's just a pity that, by and large, living in a democracy means that charismatic, and not capable, people get chosen to run the country. From Dodgy_company at Monaco.com Fri Nov 20 13:15:28 2009 From: Dodgy_company at Monaco.com (Ken_Bates) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:15:28 -0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net><008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com><5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Wayne, This could be the single most important day of your life. I have a fictitious share in an offshore company that I am looking to sell. The reason I am selling is that I am tired of having to leave the nice warm surroundings of Monaco and visit a cold northern england. I have endured it up to now because the gullible folk of yorkshire have paid enough into my pension pot to allow me to purchase Thorpe Arch and keep the yacht afloat for another decade, the sale of Delph allowed me to build an extension to my kitchen (new poggenpohl units with italian marble counter tops) and put in a new 10 person jacuzzi (ah, the baggy wrinkled flesh of old age floating around in the bubbles like a jelly fish is very relaxing). As I have grown older I have come to realise that I just don't give a f*ck about other peoples feelings when it comes to the conduct of my businesses, like all businessmen I get immense pleasure from shafting folk but there comes time when you have kicked the dog (physically not metaphorically) once too often and the marriage of suede gucci deckshoe to testicle just does not garner the same adrenaline rush. That time has now come. This is once is lifetime opportunity to pretend that you are the Chairmen of a Football Club (until the football league declare you unfit for the role). The price? I am willing to give away all of this for a meagre ?500k (used 20's only and placed in the recycling bin by the club shop) and half a packet of wagon wheels. Regards Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne" Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:51 AM To: "Chris Briggs" Cc: "Leeds List" Subject: Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU > Personally I only believe what I read on the Internet > > Regards > Wayne > > Sent from my iPhone From wiscoleeds at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 14:05:40 2009 From: wiscoleeds at hotmail.com (Mark Tuffey) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:05:40 -0600 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net>, <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com>, <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com>, <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147>, Message-ID: > From: sean at canofworms.me.uk > I've only ever met one MP face to face, and he wasn't a front bencher. > However, I understand that, face to face, most of them are absolutely > charming. It's just a pity that, by and large, living in a democracy > means that charismatic, and not capable, people get chosen to run the > country. Cue the Cult of Obama! Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From brendan.mcwilliams at vodafone.com Fri Nov 20 14:26:02 2009 From: brendan.mcwilliams at vodafone.com (McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:26:02 +0100 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net>, <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com>, <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com>, <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147>, Message-ID: Starter for 10. At least on this side of the atlantic great speakers have lost their shine with a certain T. Blair etc etc, but as in many walks of life you play against what's put in front of you. With Obama vs McCain & SARAH PALIN, erm, what outcome would one have expected? Chat of "cult" etc is ridiculous given that choice. And as Matt Damon (?) said: (something like) can anyone imagine Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the nuclear codes? > -----Mensaje original----- > De: leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk [mailto:leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk] En nombre de Mark Tuffey > Enviado el: viernes, 20 de noviembre de 2009 15:06 > Para: sean at canofworms.me.uk; mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk > CC: leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > Asunto: Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU > > > > From: sean at canofworms.me.uk > > I've only ever met one MP face to face, and he wasn't a front bencher. > > However, I understand that, face to face, most of them are absolutely > > charming. It's just a pity that, by and large, living in a democracy > > means that charismatic, and not capable, people get chosen to run the > > country. > > > > Cue the Cult of Obama! > > Cheers > Mark > El Presidente Wisconsin Whites > Leeds United > Chicago Fire > Confidencialidad Este correo electr?nico y, en su caso, cualquier fichero anexo al mismo, contiene informaci?n de car?cter confidencial exclusivamente dirigida a su destinatario o destinatarios y propiedad de Vodafone Espa?a. Queda prohibida su divulgaci?n, copia o distribuci?n a terceros sin la previa autorizaci?n escrita de Vodafone Espa?a, en virtud de la legislaci?n vigente. En el caso de haber recibido este correo electr?nico por error, se ruega notificar inmediatamente esta circunstancia mediante reenv?o a la direcci?n electr?nica del remitente y la destrucci?n del mismo. 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From wiscoleeds at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 14:33:12 2009 From: wiscoleeds at hotmail.com (Mark Tuffey) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:12 -0600 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net>, <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com>, <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com>, <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147>, , Message-ID: That it got to the point where these four morons Obama, Biden, McCain, Palin were the choices for government and one step away from the "button" is the horrific reality. Like many I'm holding out hope and counting down the days until 2012 when this farce is finally ended. Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire > From: brendan.mcwilliams at vodafone.com > To: wiscoleeds at hotmail.com; sean at canofworms.me.uk; mark.humphries at blueyonder.co.uk > CC: leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk > > Starter for 10. > > At least on this side of the atlantic great speakers have lost their > shine with a certain T. Blair etc etc, but as in many walks of life you > play against what's put in front of you. > > With Obama vs McCain & SARAH PALIN, erm, what outcome would one have > expected? Chat of "cult" etc is ridiculous given that choice. > > And as Matt Damon (?) said: (something like) can anyone imagine Sarah > Palin being a heartbeat away from the nuclear codes? _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk Fri Nov 20 14:48:51 2009 From: sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk (sinister dexter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:48:51 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <57dd23900911200412t11210483xafbf8eef866f8cf3@mail.gmail.com> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> <57dd23900911200412t11210483xafbf8eef866f8cf3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3176EDDE-114F-41C5-8E88-5E1DB1AAEEAD@dogz-bollox.co.uk> Who cares as long as it's not a state one. On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:12, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: > And only if from this list. > So when's Thatchers funeral? > Michael > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist From sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk Fri Nov 20 14:54:04 2009 From: sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk (sinister dexter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:54:04 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net>, <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com>, <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com>, <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147>, , Message-ID: <3F4E9BB3-AAED-40A9-8DA4-E48BE1658963@dogz-bollox.co.uk> The 2012 thing is such a load of old bollocks. What the idiots are claiming will end the world actually happened in a more precise manner back in 1998. As for the Mayan calender ending in 2012, it's a cyclic calender that goes back to the start. The only thing that could trigger the end of the world is us being 5-0 up against filthy scum fc in the european cup final with ten minutes to go. On 20 Nov 2009, at 14:33, Mark Tuffey wrote: > > That it got to the point where these four morons Obama, Biden, > McCain, Palin were the choices for government and one step away from > the "button" is the horrific reality. > > Like many I'm holding out hope and counting down the days until 2012 > when this farce is finally ended. > > Cheers > > Mark > El Presidente Wisconsin Whites > Leeds United > Chicago Fire From jim at jimmoran.co.uk Fri Nov 20 14:56:17 2009 From: jim at jimmoran.co.uk (Jim Moran) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:17 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <3176EDDE-114F-41C5-8E88-5E1DB1AAEEAD@dogz-bollox.co.uk> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> <57dd23900911200412t11210483xafbf8eef866f8cf3@mail.gmail.com> <3176EDDE-114F-41C5-8E88-5E1DB1AAEEAD@dogz-bollox.co.uk> Message-ID: 66 f*cking emails. Where the f*ck do I unsubscribe from the politics list, lads? From wiscoleeds at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 14:59:28 2009 From: wiscoleeds at hotmail.com (Mark Tuffey) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:59:28 -0600 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <3F4E9BB3-AAED-40A9-8DA4-E48BE1658963@dogz-bollox.co.uk> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net>, <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com>, <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com>, <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147>, , , <3F4E9BB3-AAED-40A9-8DA4-E48BE1658963@dogz-bollox.co.uk> Message-ID: I wasn't referencing that rubbish idea but the next US presidential election when the great pretender can be booted out of office. Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire > From: sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk > The 2012 thing is such a load of old bollocks. What the idiots are > claiming will end the world actually happened in a more precise manner > back in 1998. As for the Mayan calender ending in 2012, it's a cyclic > calender that goes back to the start. > > The only thing that could trigger the end of the world is us being 5-0 > up against filthy scum fc in the european cup final with ten minutes > to go. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From nigel at mindbrix.co.uk Fri Nov 20 16:20:47 2009 From: nigel at mindbrix.co.uk (Nigel Barber) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:20:47 +0000 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Canada and being a colony-LU In-Reply-To: <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> References: <284489.64975.qm@web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000501ca68ae$df5e5520$9e1aff60$@net> <008101ca69c3$1c8778e0$55966aa0$@com> <5cb2c0530911200300w6a8b67b1h39062c28d778b281@mail.gmail.com> <39020.212.147.136.147.1258716762.XlwUQ2xQT0B5Sw==.squirrel@212.147.136.147> Message-ID: <5cb2c0530911200820i786dd100h583f33b98c672b06@mail.gmail.com> To rephrase, the media is about 90% propaganda. It's either owned by rich men or the government, and staffed by people who say what they're paid to. Anyone who takes it seriously is a mug. Mandelson is a charismatic character, manna to people who sell stories for a living. If he's cast as the baddie, then that will become the received wisdom. If that's the truth then it's by accident, not design. Experience is key. Everything else is just gossip. Nigel. 2009/11/20 > > > I've heard he's a nice guy too. He may be a lightning rod for a lot of > > latent homophobia. > > > > Anyone who makes judgements solely based on what they read in the papers > > is > > astonishingly naive. Double for TV. > > hahaha. > > So unless we actually meet people in the flesh several times > (astonishingly naive to make judgement on just the one meeting - could be > a bad hair day), then we are not allowed to "make judgements"? > > So not allowed to extrapolate on someone's personality or character based > on what they say, how they say it, what they stand for, the fact they have > been sacked twice, and so on? > > Also forming an opinion of someone is, in my opinion, not necessarily > making a judgement on that person. > > But hey, I must be in a minority, unlike the party planners for Thatchers > funeral who have all met her at least once of course.. > > Anyway, I have not got the time or the inclination to meet everyone I want > to think of as a creepy spin doctoring slime ball, so I am going to remain > astonishingly naive and still not piss on him if he were burning in front > of me. > > > > -- Mindbrix: Web design, building, e-commerce, promotion, consultancy... Happiness at Work Studios 1 Green Bank Wapping E1W 2PA nigel at mindbrix.co.uk www.mindbrix.co.uk T:+44 20 7480 5638 M:+44 7905 311 352 Skype: ntbarber From mick.robinson at yrclogistics.com Fri Nov 20 16:47:51 2009 From: mick.robinson at yrclogistics.com (Robinson, Mick) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:47:51 -0000 Subject: [LU] LU: Brighton Game Message-ID: <23C3D5711C9A944581341CFDD4A96A020C3E36AC@svex31.transportation.com> Any pub planned for a beer before tomorrow's game? Mick From Andy.Kneale at jpmchase.com Fri Nov 20 16:49:08 2009 From: Andy.Kneale at jpmchase.com (Andy Kneale) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:49:08 +0000 Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) Message-ID: Anyone think Gus will outfox us tomorrow? Gaffer This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. 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From sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk Fri Nov 20 16:54:00 2009 From: sinisterpictures at dogz-bollox.co.uk (sinister dexter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:54:00 +0000 Subject: [LU] definition In-Reply-To: <23C3D5711C9A944581341CFDD4A96A020C3E36AC@svex31.transportation.com> References: <23C3D5711C9A944581341CFDD4A96A020C3E36AC@svex31.transportation.com> Message-ID: I did a search for the word associated with this definition, noun vulgar slanga woman's genitals.? offensive a woman.ORIGIN Middle English : of Germanic origin; related to Norwegian and Swedish dialect kunta, and Middle Low German, Middle Dutch, and Danish dialect kunte. the word/s that came back were keane & roy but not necessarily in that order. From david.nattan at btinternet.com Fri Nov 20 18:41:50 2009 From: david.nattan at btinternet.com (DAVID NATTAN) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:41:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <209639.86734.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Obviously many of us felt he was the brains behind our (limited) success under Wise and that it all fell apart when he left, BUT many of the players tommorrow will be Grayson or Mc Allister additions and so he will not have too much insider knowledge: and although he has started with 2 wins we are quite a formidable side these days, conceding a goal every two games but scoring a almost 2 goals a game. The team is settled and almost picks itself (with Crowe and Higgs out) - the only real question is has Kilkenny done enough to get a place in the starting line up and if so where \ in place of whom ? The only other thing for SG to decide is when to bring on Gradel. ? As long as the break has not harmed our rythmn we should have enough to bring back the 3 points ? Dave Anyone think Gus will outfox us tomorrow? Gaffer From matthew.gaynor1 at btopenworld.com Fri Nov 20 19:30:23 2009 From: matthew.gaynor1 at btopenworld.com (MATTHEW GAYNOR) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) In-Reply-To: <209639.86734.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <139100.42188.qm@web86507.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Yeh Brighton have had a couple of decent results but Poyet hasnt had enough time to fundamentally change what made them so sh*t for the first few games this season. Get a good start and they'll soon remember why they are near the bottom. I suspect the same team will start as usual - not sure Grayson sees Kilkenny as first choice yet. Matt --- On Fri, 20/11/09, DAVID NATTAN wrote: From: DAVID NATTAN Subject: Re: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) To: "list leedslist" Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 18:41 Obviously many of us felt he was the brains behind our (limited) success under Wise and that it all fell apart when he left, BUT many of the players tommorrow will be Grayson or Mc Allister additions and so he will not have too much insider knowledge: and although he has started with 2 wins we are quite a formidable side these days, conceding a goal every two games but scoring a almost 2 goals a game. The team is settled and almost picks itself (with Crowe and Higgs out) - the only real question is has Kilkenny done enough to get a place in the starting line up and if so where \ in place of whom ? The only other thing for SG to decide is when to bring on Gradel. ? As long as the break has not harmed our rythmn we should have enough to bring back the 3 points ? Dave Anyone think Gus will outfox us tomorrow? Gaffer From nholcroft at earthlink.net Fri Nov 20 20:30:49 2009 From: nholcroft at earthlink.net (Nigel Holcroft) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:30:49 -0500 Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) In-Reply-To: <139100.42188.qm@web86507.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <209639.86734.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <139100.42188.qm@web86507.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00de01ca6a20$5910ee60$0b32cb20$@net> New manager effect is usually good for a couple of games (except seemingly, when Leeds change managers, we usually start with a couple of continued losses) however, while they are on a small roll right now and Gus' strength seems to be creating a good team spirit whereby players want to play for each other that may not be enough if we are paying as we can. Sure, it will be easy enough for him to get Brighton fired up for a visit from the "mighty" LUFC just as ALL clubs tend to be but our defence is strong and a fired up attacking opponent may be the ideal target for the talents of our strike threats to hit on the counter. I'm feeling good for a Brighton 1 Leeds 4 scoreline. MOT. From matt at leeds-united.net Fri Nov 20 21:32:29 2009 From: matt at leeds-united.net (Matt Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:32:29 -0000 Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008901ca6a28$f746aa40$e5d3fec0$@net> Sods law! Completely! -----Original Message----- From: leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk [mailto:leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Kneale Sent: 20 November 2009 16:49 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) Anyone think Gus will outfox us tomorrow? Gaffer This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Volame vsechny Cechy From mick.robinson at yrclogistics.com Fri Nov 20 21:47:14 2009 From: mick.robinson at yrclogistics.com (Robinson, Mick) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:47:14 -0000 Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) In-Reply-To: <008901ca6a28$f746aa40$e5d3fec0$@net> References: <008901ca6a28$f746aa40$e5d3fec0$@net> Message-ID: <23C3D5711C9A944581341CFDD4A96A020C3E3701@svex31.transportation.com> I hope not, Is anybody going? I only asked for a list meet for a beer, Maggie?! Silence is deafening! -----Original Message----- From: leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk [mailto:leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk] On Behalf Of Matt Anderson Sent: 20 November 2009 21:32 To: 'Andy Kneale'; 'Leeds List' Subject: Re: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) Sods law! Completely! -----Original Message----- From: leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk [mailto:leedslist-bounces at list.zetnet.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Kneale Sent: 20 November 2009 16:49 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Back to LUFC (please) Anyone think Gus will outfox us tomorrow? Gaffer This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Volame vsechny Cechy _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list Leedslist at list.zetnet.co.uk http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Volame vsechny Cechy From david.nattan at btinternet.com Fri Nov 20 21:49:59 2009 From: david.nattan at btinternet.com (DAVID NATTAN) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:49:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [LU] MK Dons lose !! Message-ID: <100936.28819.qm@web86106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> ?2 1 away at Southend to last min pen. Means that they are 6 pts behind and we have 2 games in hand over the 4th placed team. Colchester and Norwich are both away tom as well as us (Oldham and Southampton ) so we could even extend our lead with a bit of luck at Brighton Dave